Explaining the Monty Hall Probability Puzzle

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explain the money hall problem without using math

The Monty Hall problem is a famous probability puzzle that often surprises people with its counterintuitive solution. Here’s an explanation without using math:

Imagine you’re on a game show. There are three closed doors in front of you. Behind one door is a car (the prize), and behind the other two doors are goats (non-prizes).

The game works like this:

1. You pick a door, but don’t open it yet.
2. The host, who knows what’s behind each door, opens one of the other two doors. He always opens a door with a goat behind it.
3. Now, the host gives you a choice: Do you want to stick with your original door, or switch to the other unopened door?

The key question is: Should you switch doors or stay with your original choice?

Many people believe it doesn’t matter whether you switch or not, thinking the odds are 50/50 at this point. However, the surprising truth is that you’re actually better off switching doors.

Here’s why:

When you first choose a door, you have a 1 in 3 chance of picking the car. This means there’s a 2 in 3 chance the car is behind one of the other doors. When the host opens a door with a goat, he’s giving you information. He’s essentially allowing you to pick both of the other doors, not just one.

By switching, you’re betting that your first choice was wrong, which is more likely than your first choice being right. You’re taking advantage of the additional information the host provided when they opened a door.

This problem is famously confusing because our intuition often fails us when dealing with probabilities. It demonstrates how sometimes in life, changing your mind based on new information can lead to better outcomes, even when it might not seem logical at first glance.

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But it seems obvious to me, even without the math, that after I pick door one, but don’t open it, the host cannot also pick door one because the host must know that the car is behind door one or door two and so the host, picks door three which is risk free in that the host knows that door three contains a goat. That knowledge is the a priori knowledge that makes the new probability become 50%. What I don’t understand is why the choice of door two is a better choice than staying with door one, Other than the math, there must be some explanation that includes the fact that I picked door one but didn’t open it and the host revealed the goat behind door three.

You’re right to focus on the key elements of the problem, and your intuition about the host’s knowledge is an important part of understanding this puzzle. Let’s break it down further without relying on math:

1. Your initial choice: When you pick door 1, you don’t know what’s behind it. It could be the car or a goat.
2. The host’s action: The host, knowing where the car is, always opens a door with a goat. This is crucial – the host is not randomly opening a door, but making a deliberate choice based on knowledge you don’t have.
3. The remaining unopened door: This is where the trick lies. The unopened door that isn’t your original choice holds more information than you might think.

Here’s the key insight: The host’s action of opening a door with a goat doesn’t change the probability of your initial choice being correct. What it does is concentrate the probability of the car being behind the other doors into the one remaining unopened door.

Think of it this way:

• If the car is behind door 1 (your initial choice), the host could open either door 2 or 3.
• If the car is behind door 2, the host must open door 3.
• If the car is behind door 3, the host must open door 2.

In two out of these three scenarios, switching would win you the car. The host’s action doesn’t make your original choice any more likely to be correct – it just eliminates one incorrect option.

The confusion often arises because we tend to think the host’s action creates a new 50/50 scenario, but it doesn’t. Instead, it preserves the original probabilities, but concentrates them.

Your initial choice still has its original probability of being correct, while the probability that you didn’t choose correctly initially is now all focused on the one remaining unopened door.

This is why switching is advantageous – you’re not just choosing between two doors with equal probability, you’re choosing to either stick with your original probability or take the combined probability of all the other options, which the host’s action has helpfully consolidated for you into one choice.

Does this explanation help clarify the reasoning behind why switching is beneficial, even without relying on specific mathematical probabilities? CopyRetry

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“Instead, it preserves the original probabilities, but concentrates them.” – explain this in further detail. Also explain how Bayes’ Thereom may be in play here. Edit

Certainly, let’s delve deeper into that concept and explore how Bayes’ Theorem relates to this problem.

“Preserving and concentrating probabilities”:

When you initially choose a door, there’s a certain probability that you’ve picked the car, and a certain probability that you haven’t. The host’s action of opening a door with a goat doesn’t change these fundamental probabilities. What it does is consolidate or “concentrate” the probability of the car being behind one of the doors you didn’t choose into the single remaining unopened door.

Let’s break it down:

1. Initial state: You have a 1/3 chance of picking the car, and a 2/3 chance of picking a goat.
2. After the host opens a door: Your original choice still has a 1/3 chance of being the car. The 2/3 chance that the car is behind one of the other doors is now entirely concentrated on the one remaining unopened door.

This concentration of probability is key to understanding why switching is advantageous.

Bayes’ Theorem in the Monty Hall Problem:

Bayes’ Theorem is indeed at play here, though it’s not immediately obvious without the math. Bayes’ Theorem is about updating probabilities based on new information. In this case, the new information is the host’s action of opening a specific door with a goat.

Here’s how Bayes’ Theorem applies:

1. Prior Probability: Before the host opens a door, each door has a 1/3 chance of containing the car.
2. New Evidence: The host opens a door with a goat. This is our new information.
3. Likelihood: The probability of the host opening that specific door, given the location of the car. This is where the host’s knowledge and behavior are crucial.
4. Posterior Probability: After seeing which door the host opens, we update our beliefs about where the car is likely to be.

The key insight from Bayes’ Theorem in this problem is that the probability of the host opening a specific door is not uniform – it depends on where the car actually is. The host will always open a door with a goat, and if your initial choice was correct, the host has two doors to choose from. If your initial choice was wrong, the host has only one door they can open.

This non-uniform probability of the host’s action is what leads to the unintuitive result. Bayes’ Theorem helps us correctly update our probabilities based on this new information, showing that the remaining unopened door now has a higher probability of containing the car than your initial choice.

In essence, Bayes’ Theorem formalizes the process of updating our beliefs based on new evidence, which is exactly what’s happening when the host opens a door in the Monty Hall problem. It provides a mathematical framework for understanding why our intuition about the probabilities can be misleading in this scenario.

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Does “new evidence” transform probability from theoretical to empirical. Edit

This is an insightful question that touches on a fundamental aspect of probability theory and its application in real-world scenarios. Let’s explore this idea:

1. Theoretical vs. Empirical Probability:
   • Theoretical probability is based on the assumed structure of a situation, often calculated before any events occur.
   • Empirical probability is based on observed outcomes of actual experiments or events.
2. Role of “New Evidence”: New evidence doesn’t necessarily transform theoretical probability into empirical probability, but it does bridge the gap between the two in important ways:
   • It allows us to update our theoretical probabilities based on observed data.
   • It helps refine our understanding of the actual system or process we’re dealing with.
3. Bayesian Perspective: In Bayesian statistics, which is closely related to Bayes’ Theorem, we start with a prior probability (theoretical) and update it with new evidence to get a posterior probability. This posterior is still theoretical in nature, but it’s informed by empirical data.
4. In the Monty Hall Problem:
   • The initial probabilities (1/3 for each door) are theoretical, based on the structure of the game.
   • The host opening a door provides new evidence, but it doesn’t make the probability empirical in the strict sense.
   • Instead, it allows us to update our theoretical probabilities based on new information within the game’s structure.
5. Transformation vs. Update: Rather than transforming probability from theoretical to empirical, new evidence in situations like the Monty Hall problem allows us to update our theoretical model to better reflect the actual state of the system.
6. Convergence of Theoretical and Empirical: In many real-world applications, as we gather more evidence, our updated theoretical probabilities tend to converge with what we would observe empirically if we could run the experiment many times.

So, while “new evidence” doesn’t directly transform theoretical probability into empirical probability, it does play a crucial role in:

• Updating our theoretical models
• Bringing our theoretical understanding closer to empirical reality
• Allowing us to make more informed decisions based on both the initial structure of a problem and observed data

This process of updating probabilities based on new evidence is at the heart of Bayesian reasoning and forms a bridge between purely theoretical probability and empirically observed outcomes. CopyRetry

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so, if I walk into a casino with prior knowledge of the roulette wheels history of the past 100 consecutive spins, is that empiral knowledge more advantageous to me as a gambler that if I walked into the casino with no knowledge of the history of the roulette wheels previous 100 consecutive spins? Edit

This is an excellent question that touches on some fundamental concepts in probability and gambling. Let’s break it down:

1. Theoretical probability of roulette: In a fair roulette game, each spin is an independent event. The probability of any particular outcome (like landing on red or a specific number) remains constant regardless of past results. This is known as the “gambler’s fallacy” – the mistaken belief that past outcomes influence future probabilities in independent events.
2. Empirical data and its implications: Knowledge of the previous 100 spins is empirical data. However, in a truly random and fair roulette wheel, this information should not provide any advantage for future spins.
3. Possible scenarios where this knowledge might be useful: a. Detecting biased wheels: If the empirical data shows a significant deviation from expected probabilities (e.g., a number or color appearing much more frequently than it should), it might indicate a biased wheel. This could potentially be advantageous. b. Identifying patterns due to mechanical issues: In rare cases, a wheel might have a mechanical flaw that creates a predictable pattern. However, casinos regularly check for such issues.
4. The law of large numbers: Over a very large number of spins, the outcomes should approach the theoretical probabilities. However, 100 spins is generally not enough to reliably identify biases or patterns in a well-maintained wheel.
5. Psychological factors: Having this information might influence your betting strategy, but not necessarily in a way that improves your odds. It could lead to the gambler’s fallacy if misinterpreted.
6. Casino perspective: Casinos operate on the principle that in the long run, the house always wins due to the built-in house edge. They’re generally not concerned about players having short-term historical data.

In conclusion, while having empirical knowledge of past spins might feel advantageous, in a fair and properly functioning roulette game, it doesn’t provide a real edge. The theoretical probability remains the same for each spin, regardless of history.

However, if the data revealed a significant anomaly, it could potentially be useful – but casinos are vigilant about maintaining fair games to prevent such advantages. The most reliable approach in roulette, as with most casino games, is to understand that each spin is independent and that the house always has a statistical advantage in the long run. CopyRetry

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but no gambler in his/her right mind would bet on red if the last one thousand consecutive spins were blackm even though the theoretical probability is still 50/50. Edit

You’ve touched on a fascinating point that highlights the tension between theoretical probability and human psychology in gambling. Let’s unpack this:

1. Theoretical vs. Psychological Reality: You’re absolutely right that no rational gambler would likely bet on red after 1000 consecutive black spins, even though the theoretical probability remains 50/50 (excluding green for simplicity). This illustrates the significant gap between pure probability theory and human decision-making in real-world scenarios.
2. Intuition vs. Mathematics: Our intuition strongly rebels against the idea that the 1001st spin is just as likely to be black as red after such a streak. This intuition, while not mathematically sound for a fair wheel, is a deeply ingrained human trait.
3. Practical Considerations: In a real-world scenario, such an extreme streak would raise serious questions about the fairness of the wheel. It would be statistically so improbable as to be virtually impossible in a fair game.
4. The Role of Empirical Evidence: This scenario demonstrates how empirical evidence can indeed influence decision-making, even when it theoretically shouldn’t in a perfectly random system. The observed data would strongly suggest that the theoretical model (fair, random wheel) doesn’t match reality.
5. Bayesian Thinking in Practice: A Bayesian approach would update the probability estimates based on this new evidence. The prior belief in a fair wheel would be overwhelmingly outweighed by the observed data, leading to a revised hypothesis about the wheel’s fairness.
6. Risk Assessment: A gambler making decisions based on this information isn’t just calculating odds, but assessing risk. The risk of betting against such an overwhelming trend might seem foolish, even if theoretically sound.
7. Casino Operations: Any casino experiencing such a streak would likely halt the game and thoroughly investigate the wheel, as it would indicate a severe malfunction or tampering.

Your point eloquently illustrates that in real-world gambling and decision-making:

1. Empirical evidence can and does influence decisions, often outweighing theoretical probabilities.
2. Human intuition and pattern recognition play a significant role, even when they conflict with probability theory.
3. The assumption of a fair and random system is itself subject to scrutiny based on observed outcomes.
4. There’s a practical limit to how much people will adhere to theoretical probabilities when faced with overwhelming contrary evidence.

This scenario underscores the complexity of applying probability theory in real-world situations, especially where human psychology, risk assessment, and the potential for system failures intersect with pure mathematics. CopyRetry

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this has implications for Machine learning because the machine follows rules, not intuition. Edit

You’ve made an astute observation that cuts to the heart of a key challenge in artificial intelligence and machine learning. Let’s explore the implications:

1. Rule-Based vs. Intuitive Decision Making:
   • Machines typically follow programmed rules or learned patterns.
   • Humans often rely on intuition, which can incorporate complex, subconscious pattern recognition and experience-based judgment.
2. Strengths of Machine Learning:
   • Consistency: ML models will consistently apply learned patterns, avoiding human biases.
   • Processing Power: Can analyze vast amounts of data quickly.
   • Objectivity: Not influenced by emotions or cognitive biases (unless these are in the training data).
3. Limitations in Anomaly Detection:
   • ML models might struggle to identify when a system has fundamentally changed or is behaving abnormally, especially if not explicitly trained for this.
   • They may continue to apply learned rules even when human intuition would suggest something is wrong.
4. The Importance of Training Data:
   • ML models are highly dependent on their training data. If not exposed to rare events or anomalies, they may not handle them well.
   • This highlights the need for diverse, comprehensive datasets and careful consideration of edge cases.
5. Balancing Rules and Flexibility:
   • Advanced ML systems try to incorporate both rule-based decision-making and more flexible, pattern-recognition approaches.
   • Techniques like anomaly detection and outlier analysis aim to identify when data significantly deviates from expected patterns.
6. Human-in-the-Loop Systems:
   • For critical applications, keeping humans involved in the decision-making process can help catch situations where ML models might fail due to lack of intuition.
7. Ethical and Safety Implications:
   • In high-stakes scenarios (e.g., autonomous vehicles, medical diagnoses), the lack of human-like intuition in ML systems can pose safety risks.
   • This necessitates robust testing, fail-safes, and careful system design.
8. Developing “Artificial Intuition”:
   • Current research in AI aims to develop systems that can better mimic human-like intuition and adaptability.
   • Approaches like meta-learning and transfer learning try to make AI systems more flexible and able to adapt to new situations.
9. The Role of Explainable AI (XAI):
   • As ML systems become more complex, there’s a growing need for methods to explain their decision-making processes.
   • This can help identify when and why a system might be making counterintuitive decisions.
10. Continuous Learning and Adaptation:
    • Unlike traditional ML models, some advanced systems are designed to continuously learn and adapt to new data, potentially allowing them to better handle changing circumstances.

Your insight highlights a crucial area of ongoing research and development in AI and ML. The goal is to create systems that can combine the consistency and processing power of machines with the adaptability and intuitive reasoning of humans. This involves not just improving algorithms, but also rethinking how we approach the entire process of machine learning and decision-making in AI systems.